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2026年08月28日
Why I interviewed Andy Burnham in a supermarket | FT
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- FT 記者於週三早上七點在倫敦九榆樹 Sainsbury's 超市採訪曼徹斯特市長安迪·伯納姆（Andy Burnham），藉由超市宣佈為年輕人創造一萬個就業及實習機會的活動場合進行訪問。
- 記者與伯納姆相識於 1990 年代，當時伯納姆剛從劍橋畢業、擔任特別顧問，兩人已認識多年，此次為其離開西敏寺九年後的難得訪談。
- 採訪聚焦於伯納曼近年較少談論的議題，包括他對私營部門、企業家精神及財富創造的看法。
- 伯納姆過去以「曼徹斯特主義」聞名，強調國家與企業的積極合作關係，此次訪談進一步探討其經濟治理理念。
- 完整訪談內容收錄於《金融時報》政治觀察播客（FT Political Observer Podcast）。
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Yeah, it was a it was 7:00 in the morning on Wednesday and yeah, we were at the Nine Elms supermarket in Vauxhall
是的，那是星期三早上七點，我們在沃克斯霍爾的九榆樹超市
Sainsbury's and I'm going to tell you some of the shoppers there were a bit surprised to see me at the prime
Sainsbury's，我要告訴你們，有些在那裡的購物者看到首相時有點驚訝，他們睡眼惺忪地出來買一品脫牛奶
minister's they nipped out bleary-eyed to get a pint of milk.
。
Andy Burnham was there to celebrate the fact that Sainsbury's are creating 10,000 job
安迪·伯納姆在那裡慶祝Sainsbury's正在為年輕人創造一萬個就業機會
opportunities or work experience opportunities for young people.
或實習機會。
Of course, it gave Andy Burnham a chance to put on a Sainsbury's fleece and meet
當然，這讓安迪·伯納姆有機會穿上Sainsbury's的刷毛外套，並與
young people and meet some shoppers.
年輕人會面，以及與一些購物者交流。
And it gave me a peg to interview Andy Burnham.
這也給了我一個機會去採訪安迪·伯納姆。
>> And George, you haven't been an empty burner for quite a while, have you?
>> 喬治，你已經有一段時間不是「空燃燒器」了吧？
>> Funnily enough, I first met Andy Burnham back in the 1990s and Andy Burnham was a special advisor
>> 說起來很有趣，我第一次見到安迪·伯納姆是在1990年代，他當時是一位特別顧問，
floppy-haired young special advisor fresh out of Cambridge University and over the years I've gotten to know him
一個剛從劍橋大學畢業、留著蓬鬆頭髮的年輕特別顧問，多年來我對他相當了解
quite well.
。
>> He's been out of Westminster for nine years, hasn't he?
>> 他已經離開西敏寺九年了，對吧？
So he's sort of known what he thinks about various things is has become a bit of a mystery to
所以他對各種事情的看法，至少近年來對西敏寺來說，
Westminster at least in recent years.
已經變得有點神秘。
>> Well, I think that was what was what was the interesting thing about the interview that we know a lot about some
>> 嗯，我認為這就是採訪中有趣的地方，我們對他作為市長期間
of the stuff he's been talking about in terms of his time in mayor, that idea of Manchesterism, the active state working
談論的一些內容相當了解，例如曼徹斯特主義的概念、積極的國家與企業合作。
with business.
但我真正想知道的是，他如何看待私營
But what I really wanted to find out about was what does he think about the private sector,
部門、企業家精神、財富創造。
entrepreneurism, wealth creation.
但我真正想知道的是，他如何看待私營
If you want to hear more about my interview with Andy Burnham, you can hear it on
如果你想了解更多關於我與安迪·伯納姆的訪談內容，
the FT's political fix podcast.
你可以在《金融時報》的政治觀察播客中收聽。
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bleary-eyed
/ˌblɪə.ri ˈaɪd/
adjective
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having eyes that are tired, red, or unfocused, usually from lack of sleep
睡眼惺忪的；眼神疲憊模糊的
📍 影片例句
"And I'm going to tell you some of the shoppers there were a bit surprised to see me at the prime minister's they nipped out bleary-eyed to get a pint of milk."
→ 我跟你說，那裡有些購物民眾看到我時有點驚訝，他們睡眼惺忪地跑出來只是想買一瓶牛奶。
💡 補充例句
"She answered the phone with a bleary-eyed look after staying up all night studying."
→ 她熬夜讀書後，用睡眼惺忪的表情接起了電話。
nip out
/nɪp aʊt/
phrasal verb
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to go somewhere quickly, usually for a short time
迅速外出；短暫出門
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"Some of the shoppers there nipped out bleary-eyed to get a pint of milk."
→ 那裡有些購物民眾睡眼惺忪地快速出門去買一瓶牛奶。
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"I'll just nip out to the shop to grab some bread."
→ 我只是要快速去商店買點麵包。
fleece
/fliːs/
noun
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a soft, warm jacket or top made of a synthetic fabric that resembles wool
刷毛外套；保暖絨衣
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"It gave Andy Burnham a chance to put on a Sainsbury's fleece and meet young people and meet some shoppers."
→ 這讓安迪·伯納姆有機會穿上 Sainsbury's 的刷毛外套，與年輕人和一些購物民眾見面。
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"She wore a cozy fleece when she went hiking in the mountains."
→ 她去山上健行時穿了一件舒適保暖的刷毛外套。
peg
/peɡ/
noun
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a reason or excuse used to justify or connect something
理由；藉口；切入點
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"And it gave me a peg to interview Andy Burnham."
→ 這也給了我一個採訪安迪·伯納姆的切入點。
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"The news about the economy gave him a peg to discuss financial policy."
→ 經濟新聞為他提供了一個討論財政政策的切入點。
floppy-haired
/ˌflɒp.i heəd/
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having hair that is soft, loose, and tends to hang down
頭髮蓬鬆下垂的
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"Andy Burnham was a special advisor floppy-haired young special advisor fresh out of Cambridge University."
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"The floppy-haired boy quickly became the heartthrob of the school."
→ 那個頭髮蓬鬆下垂的男孩很快就成為全校女生的白馬王子。
fresh out of
/freʃ aʊt əv/
phrase
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having just recently left or graduated from a place, especially a school
剛從…畢業；剛離開…
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"Andy Burnham was a floppy-haired young special advisor fresh out of Cambridge University."
→ 安迪·伯納姆當時是一位頭髮蓬鬆、剛從劍橋大學畢業的年輕特別顧問。
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"He found it hard to get a job fresh out of college."
→ 他剛大學畢業時很難找到工作。
Westminster
/ˈwest.mɪn.stər/
noun
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used to refer to the British Parliament or the British political establishment
英國國會；英國政治圈
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"So he's sort of known what he thinks about various things is has become a bit of a mystery to Westminster at least in recent years."
→ 所以他對各種事情的看法，至少在這幾年來，對英國政治圈來說已經變得有點神祕了。
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"The new policy caused a stir in Westminster."
→ 這項新政策在英國國會引起了軒然大波。
entrepreneurism
/ˌɒn.trə.prəˈnɜː.rɪ.zəm/
noun
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the practice of starting and running businesses, especially with financial risk
創業精神；企業家精神
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"What I really wanted to find out about was what does he think about the private sector, entrepreneurism, wealth creation."
→ 我真正想知道的是他對私部門、創業精神和創造財富的看法。
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"The country is known for encouraging entrepreneurism among its young people."
→ 該國以鼓勵年輕人創業聞名。
wealth creation
/welθ kriˈeɪ.ʃən/
noun phrase
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the process of generating economic value, money, or assets
財富創造；創造財富
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"What I really wanted to find out about was what does he think about the private sector, entrepreneurism, wealth creation."
→ 我真正想知道的是他對私部門、創業精神和創造財富的看法。
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"Small businesses are essential for wealth creation in the local economy."
→ 小型企業對地方經濟的財富創造至關重要。
podcast
/ˈpɒd.kæst/
noun
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a digital audio file available on the internet that can be downloaded and listened to
播客；網路廣播節目
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"If you want to hear more about my interview with Andy Burnham, you can hear it on the FT's political fix podcast."
→ 如果你想聽更多關於我採訪安迪·伯納姆的內容，可以在《金融時報》的政治評論播客中收聽。
💡 補充例句
"I listen to a business podcast every morning on my way to work."
→ 我每天早上上班途中都會收聽一個商業播客。
mystery
/ˈmɪs.tər.i/
noun
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something that is difficult or impossible to understand or explain
謎團；難以理解的事物
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"So he's sort of known what he thinks about various things is has become a bit of a mystery to Westminster at least in recent years."
→ 所以他對各種事情的看法，至少在這幾年來，對英國政治圈來說已經變得有點神祕了。
💡 補充例句
"The reason for his sudden resignation remains a mystery."
→ 他突然辭職的原因仍是個謎。
celebrate
/ˈsel.ɪ.breɪt/
verb
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to acknowledge or mark a special occasion or achievement with a social gathering or festivity
慶祝；紀念
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"Andy Burnham was there to celebrate the fact that Sainsbury's are creating 10,000 job opportunities or work experience opportunities for young people."
→ 安迪·伯納姆出席是為了慶祝 Sainsbury's 為年輕人創造一萬個工作機會或實習機會這件事。
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"They gathered to celebrate her promotion at the company."
→ 他們聚集在一起慶祝她在公司的升遷。